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Jan 30, 2026

Most marketers worry about whether buyers trust their brand. Brent Adamson, author of The Framemaking Sale, argues that the actual issue sits somewhere else: Buyers do not trust themselves.

In this episode, Drew sits down with Brent to challenge three big assumptions: That more supplier trust is the answer, that buyers have a neat journey to map, and that customer centricity is always the right north star.

In this episode: 

  • Why decision confidence matters more than supplier trust 

  • How shifting from “trust us” to “trust yourselves” reshapes GTM 

  • How to rethink buyer journeys through the “never again” and spaghetti-bowl lens. 

  • Framemaking in practice, from nudges and checklists to maturity models. 

  • The three Es, Establish, Engage, Execute, as a shared marketing and sales playbook.

Plus: 

  • Escaping the smartness arms race by editing content to reduce anxiety and build buyer self-confidence. 

  • Turning social proof into a confidence engine, using “other customers like you…” stories. 

  • Making content supplier-agnostic, helping buyers ask better questions and weigh tradeoffs.

If you want your buyers to trust themselves enough to decide, start here. 

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